Well, the moneyer's guild gives 240 coins (pewter pennies) to the king and queen when they step up (it's part of our charter, actually :) ). We do new dies for each king and queen, and Ian usually makes the dies since he's the most skilled.
Would this project be in addition to the guild's coins?
From about the 10th century onward, "bezant" was the name used for gold Byzantine coins. I don't have any good information on how the meaning of that word changed as the Byzantine empire disintegrated, but they did mint gold up until the very end...
Byzantine coins look dramatically different from most of what was being minted in Europe. They tend to have very small, square letters, and lots of engraving. Many are high relief, which is rather challenging to strike.
A proper gold bezant is 65-70 troy grains in weight. This comes out to about $95 per coin.
Anyway, I'm about to run off to a final. More later. :)
for much of the medieval period, clothing could be embellished by little metal spangles, sequins, pastilles or sometimes they're called bezants.
thin metal (pewter?), stamped with some sort of design is sewn on the garment in a sparkly pattern :). they can be handed out as personal tokens as well.
I've seen them as ciphers (ie little gold initials), or little rounds that are then appliqued in trefoil patterns, or diamond shapes, or ???
some of us had this vision of 12th night overgown/cotes all sparkly...dark blue velvet(een) with these silver bezants....
anyway, if thats something you'd be interested in (it would be a single die, or one of each of them if so inclined, not a lot of detail since these are small and simple, its mostly for the sparkle) let me know! wanted to give you first right of refusal :)
Ah, okay. I'm definitely interested if there's enough time. :) When would these be "due"? Do you know of any good sources for these? How big are they, roughly?
Rounds are considerably easier than any other shape, but we can make a die to stamp pretty much any design we want on the face of the round blank.
Pewter is easy. Silver could be done, but at considerably increased cost and time commitment (mostly because all of my equipment is contaminated with pewter).
we're thinking for 12th night mostly, so some time before that (Sept?) so we have time to sew the little buggers on the garments
they are small. like modern dime size TOPS. let me check with Annisa et al about extant examples, etc.
I'll pitch the idea to TRH this weekend when I see them. Definately pewter over silver... if it was me, I'd want little single motif rounds that can then be applied in trefoil patterns. Her highness has little crescents and ermines on her arms, and he is a stag with gouttes.
tehy'd need ALOT but we can farm out the cutting and edge cleaning up as well as the hole punching bits to help assembly line them.
Ursela had mentioned something about having the bunnies help with some stuff, this might be a good project for the College (tm) to do?
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money boy!
do you have any interest in working on a stamped bezant project for their highnesses?
when the idea came up I immediately thought of you. they're 14th century. be still my heart!! :)
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Would this project be in addition to the guild's coins?
From about the 10th century onward, "bezant" was the name used for gold Byzantine coins. I don't have any good information on how the meaning of that word changed as the Byzantine empire disintegrated, but they did mint gold up until the very end...
Byzantine coins look dramatically different from most of what was being minted in Europe. They tend to have very small, square letters, and lots of engraving. Many are high relief, which is rather challenging to strike.
A proper gold bezant is 65-70 troy grains in weight. This comes out to about $95 per coin.
Anyway, I'm about to run off to a final. More later. :)
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for much of the medieval period, clothing could be embellished by little metal spangles, sequins, pastilles or sometimes they're called bezants.
thin metal (pewter?), stamped with some sort of design is sewn on the garment in a sparkly pattern :). they can be handed out as personal tokens as well.
I've seen them as ciphers (ie little gold initials), or little rounds that are then appliqued in trefoil patterns, or diamond shapes, or ???
some of us had this vision of 12th night overgown/cotes all sparkly...dark blue velvet(een) with these silver bezants....
anyway, if thats something you'd be interested in (it would be a single die, or one of each of them if so inclined, not a lot of detail since these are small and simple, its mostly for the sparkle) let me know! wanted to give you first right of refusal :)
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Rounds are considerably easier than any other shape, but we can make a die to stamp pretty much any design we want on the face of the round blank.
Pewter is easy. Silver could be done, but at considerably increased cost and time commitment (mostly because all of my equipment is contaminated with pewter).
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they are small. like modern dime size TOPS. let me check with Annisa et al about extant examples, etc.
I'll pitch the idea to TRH this weekend when I see them. Definately pewter over silver... if it was me, I'd want little single motif rounds that can then be applied in trefoil patterns. Her highness has little crescents and ermines on her arms, and he is a stag with gouttes.
tehy'd need ALOT but we can farm out the cutting and edge cleaning up as well as the hole punching bits to help assembly line them.
Ursela had mentioned something about having the bunnies help with some stuff, this might be a good project for the College (tm) to do?
dunno. brainstorming. :)
its a neat idea, isnt it? :)
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How many is a lot? Several hundred wont be a problem. If we do over a thousand or so I *might* need to harden the dies.
And yeah, super cool idea. :)