This weekend was rather productive. I:

- Went to the farmer's market with [livejournal.com profile] ursule.
- Started a batch of hard cider made from apple cider bought at said market (pure juice, no preservatives!)
- Cleaned up yeast blow-out from the aforementioned hard cider.
- Finally bottled the pumpkin ale that I started in November. 8.1%, and darn tasty.
- Hung out with [livejournal.com profile] ursule, [livejournal.com profile] tejolote, and [livejournal.com profile] ryunohi during a general craft night at our place.
- Consumed beer, scotch, and pizza with the aforementioned people.
- Hacked together a holder for engraving coin dies.
- Did a bunch of GRE practice questions.
- Went for a nice walk through the forested area of Ravenna Park with [livejournal.com profile] ursule.
- Played some video games (okay, so this wasn't exactly productive).

From: [identity profile] aelfgyfu.livejournal.com


So what cider recipe / method are you using? Mom just finished pressing 4 gallons of gravenstine cider for me, which we are freezing until we have some other varieties ready to mix it with, but I am planning on producing a lot of hard cider and cyser fairly soon... I am going to do the cyser with the mead-making equiptment Hank bought, but I also want to experiment with more traditional cider. In fact, do you know someplace I can get a used barel for making cider in? I am sort of wanting to experiment with making things in barels and decanting later, since I also make things to decant into and that is the medieval way of doing it.

From: [identity profile] glasseye.livejournal.com


I'm not really using a recipe. :)

The cider we got at the market didn't say what kind of apple(s) it was pressed from, but I know that it's pure juice, and quite sweet. It didn't taste very tart at all, but once the yeast eats all the sugar that may change.

Here's what I did:

Sanitized everything with 1-step cleanser.
Heated 1gal of cider, just to bring it to room temperature (it was mostly frozen.)
Hydrated 1 packet of Premier Cuvée champagne yeast in 1/4 cup warm water w/ pinch of sugar and yeast nutrient. (about 15 minutes.)
Put 1tsp yeast nutrient in fermenter (1gal water jug.)
Put 1/2tsp acid blend in fermenter (I would have used lemon juice here if we'd had any.)
Put 1/2 of cider into fermenter.
Added hydrated yeast.
Put last 1/2 of cider into fermenter.

Unfortunately I neglected to take a hydrometer reading, so I'll have no idea how potent the stuff is.

I skipped the usual step of aerating the must, since when I was putting the frozen cider into the pot to melt it there was much agitation. ;)


Regarding barrels, the best place to ask would be a homebrew store. There's one at the Oregon City side of the old bridge. I want to try that too At Some Point.

From: [identity profile] sablebadger.livejournal.com


You'll probably be able to figure out how potent it is by how often you black out while drinking it.

;)
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From: [personal profile] ursula


My dad always uses champagne yeast, too.

[livejournal.com profile] glasseye wasn't listing my projects, so he didn't mention that the endless net is done.

From: [identity profile] sablebadger.livejournal.com


Best bet for a "barrel" for making a cider/brewing/whatever in, is a 5 gallon glass jug, called a "Carboy".

You can find them cheap sometimes in random places, but brewing store will have them.

The reason for this over a barrel is Sanitation. There are a lot more yeasts/infectious agents floating around these days, as opposed to back in the day (increased industrialization will do that to a society) so you really want to make sure you're doing a clean environment, and only exposing the sugary source to the right kinds of agents.

badger

From: [identity profile] sablebadger.livejournal.com


Glass is easier to sanitize than plastic or wood. Wood has some benefits if you can get a decent clean barrel, in that wood has some natural antiseptic properties. But it can also impart off flavors especially the american grown oaks. English oaks impart much less flavor to drinks fermenting in them, but the silly english cut most of their trees down, and the oak they used in period to store and ferment is not really available for construction of barrels.

If you want a nice barrel with a wax/parafin lining to get the look, and the cleanliness you can check the J something Townsend catalog that I am sure you know about. the recreation catalog mostly focussed on colonial, but with some period stuff.

badger

From: [identity profile] aelfgyfu.livejournal.com


Jas Townsend - my friends! ;-) I have bought many radom little fiddly items from them. I keep eyeing their barrels as water barrels for events too, but so $! :-P

From: [identity profile] mattyc9.livejournal.com


Ever heard of a little thing called eye/hand coordination? Productive indeed!

From: [identity profile] sablebadger.livejournal.com


Hey, I've been meaning to ask you..

I know you're a broke ass college student, but you wanna buy some brewing stuff cheap? I think the chances of me getting back into it are pretty damn slim, and this stuff takes up a lot of space. And before you ask, no I don't have any idea how much.

badger

From: [identity profile] glasseye.livejournal.com


Hmm, I'm certainly interested in at least some of it. Probably another keg, and the CO2/regulator setup that I've been borrowing for too long. And the honey if you're willing to part with it. :) Unfortunately I'm hampered by very little storage space too.

I could probably help you get rid of the rest of the kegs, and maybe some of the other equipment. I'm fairly sure Bob's homebrew buys kegs for resale, and there's always the possibility that someone on the seattle homebrewer's mailing list might be looking to get more equipment.
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From: [personal profile] ursula


Yes, but you can decant from one into a charming container.

From: [identity profile] glasseye.livejournal.com


Not really, kegs are heavy and you'd violate the cleanliness by decanting. Might as well use a barrel. :D

From: [identity profile] aelfgyfu.livejournal.com


Or Hannk that he wants to do some other home brewing. ;-)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com


Hey! Ursula and Nicole mentioned you guys might have an opening for a paladin/healer/fighty-person of some kind in the gaming group - how much beer would encourage you to consider me for the part? I'm friendly, clean, house-broken, and not half bad with dice... :P

From: [identity profile] glasseye.livejournal.com


Hey hey. No bribes are required, though people do bring snacky-type things to game occasionally. :D

The party could really use a tank or a cleric, but you can play whatever you like within the context of the game.

We're 7th level (full hp the first level, standard roll thereafter - best 3 of 4d6 for stats)
No dwarves or half-orce
Barbarians are severely restricted (IE, you can play one if you really want to, but we'd need to talk about it first).

There's a little wiki up about the campaign here:

http://www.the-immortals.com/lanishen
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com


It never hurts to try. ;)

Tank or cleric is fine with me - I'm still trying to fuss out which I'd prefer. Any unusual world or backstory situations I should be aware of before I start piecing a personality together?

From: [identity profile] glasseye.livejournal.com


Well, it's an entirely custom world, with a custom pantheon. :D Magic is fairly rare, especially arcane magic (and consequently, magic items). The gods have generally kept their influence in the workings of the world on the lighter side of things, but times are a' changing.

The main setting is the human kingdom of Lanishen. The lands used to be entirely elven , but humans invaded during the last age and conquered it (~3000 years). An elven domain does still exist within Lanishen (The Kingdom of Parlaea), which is entirely contained within an enchanted forest in the eastern part of Lanishen.

The population distribution in Lanishen is something like:

Humans: 80%
Elves: 8%
Half-elves: 5%
Halflings: 4%
Gnomes: 3%
Dwarves: ~0% (very rare)
Half-orce: ~0% (very rare)

Lanishen is engaged in a bitter war with the barbarian tribes and some dwarven kingdoms in the north. The known friendly dwarven kingdoms have basically vanished. The alliance against the humans is strange, and not well understood.

The party has mostly been concerned with a new phenomenon - undead have been rising all over the kingdom. Certain ex-members of the mage's guild seem to be involved, and recently a fairly highly-ranked paladin turned blackguard and joined the forces of evil.

I highly recommend checking out the wiki. :D
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com


Awesome, thank you - I checked the wiki a bit last night, reading up on the existing characters, the deities, etc, but I didn't get far enough into it to get the plot concept, I think. And then today... ugh. Silly work keeping me away from fun pursuits. :P With luck, I'll have a chance to read the rest of the wiki tonight.

Okay, here's where my brain is going - I'd like to go with a paladin, if you don't mind, so that I have the fighty stuff along with potential for a little healing when necessary (I'm pulling this off the top of my head without a reference, so correct me if I'm wrong - it's been a while since I've looked at the rule books!). I've got bits of the backstory brewing, but I'll have to go through the details in the story to see how it'll mesh.

Speaking of that last, what system are you running on? I'd love to keep my eyes open for my own copies of the basic manual.
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com


Ack - by 'system' I mean 3.0, etc. *Headdesk* It's been a long day.

From: [identity profile] glasseye.livejournal.com


Sure thing. The wiki is far from perfect, but it does have a decent amount of info up.

A paladin is fine. They don't have much in the way of healing at level 7 (just a few level 1 spells + lay on hands, IIRC), but you can tweak the character a bit, especially with a high wisdom score. Or you could always multi-class.

We're currently running D&D 3.0 with some minor rule tweaks, but a 3.5 book would be perfectly fine (I'd recommend a 3.5 book, since I'd like to move to the 3.5 rules later on anyway). If you want to buy new, there's a pretty good gaming shop on the ave a couple of blocks north of 50th called The Dreaming (east side of the street).
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com


*Nods* I really liked what I saw, I just need to get through the rest. And maybe take some notes so I don't get things mixed up when I'm doing character creation.

Multi-classing could be interesting... I'll have to take a look at the book, I've never done that before. Either way, I'd definitely be pushing for high wisdom, so that's good.

I keep meaning to pop into The Dreaming anyway, though I'll probably check the ones closer to home on the way, and the used stuff as well. I've been needing one of the books for a long time, anyway, so it's time to just buckle down and buy it. XD And some new dice, since mine seem to have vanished....
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From: [personal profile] ursula


High Charisma is actually more useful than high Wisdom for a paladin, at least until you hit the super-high levels (the points you can heal by laying on hands depend on the Charisma score).

D'you know which god you're leaning toward?
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